On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Keith J. Schultz <schul...@uni-trier.de>wrote:

> Hi Mikael, > > Basically, I see your problem with ConTeXts handling of math as a matter > of taste! > That is you want LaTeX syntax. > > It is easy enough to get the results you want. > > The only place where I see a bug is that a single prime is set larger than > multple > primes. > > regards > Keith > Hi Keith, I do not agree with you. It is not so important to have the same syntax as in LaTeX (exception: it would be nice to get double bars from \| since it does not make sense to have \| yield a single bar since | does), but to be able to write very common formulas (look at the example with double derivative with respect to x in my examples above, and tell me how to do that correctly in ConTeXt!) in an acceptable way. Best regards, Mikael > > > Am 11.02.2014 um 14:18 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist <mic...@gmail.com>: > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Keith J. Schultz > <schul...@uni-trier.de>wrote: > >> >> Am 11.02.2014 um 09:57 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist <mic...@gmail.com>: >> >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Hans Hagen <pra...@wxs.nl> wrote: >> >>> On 2/10/2014 9:24 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I used ConTeXt (mkii) to write my PhD thesis in Mathematics in 2008. It >>>> worked just fine. >>>> >>>> At the moment I write some exams and hand-outs using ConTeXt, but >>>> research using LaTeX (since the journals do not really accept ConTeXt >>>> and my collaborators dont know ConTeXt). >>>> >>>> It certainly works OK to write math in ConTeXt, but I have a feeling >>>> that there are some things that are somewhat broken or not finetuned to >>>> output what mathematicians expect. Look at the attached pdf files [1] >>>> l.pdf (from LaTeX) and c.pdf (from latest standalone ConTeXt), with >>>> source l.tex and c.tex for some examples. >>>> >>> >>> In mkiv we follow some alternative approaches compared to mkii (and >>> probably other tex macro packages) and some aspects indeed might need >>> tuning (or more configuration options) .. I try hard to get away from >>> hackery solutions (for several reasons). >>> >> >> I agree it is good to avoid hackery as long as possible, and I for sure >> is ready to relearn how to write some things. With the examples I gave in >> the previous email in mind: >> >> * How am I supposed to write first derivative (f') and second derivative >> (f'') in such a way that they have the same type of prime (the prime in the >> first derivative is the one I prefer)? >> >> No sure if to call this a bug! It seems that a single prime is always >> larger than multiple ones! >> You can always change its size! >> > > I think the user should not have to change its size. All primes should > have the same size, independent if they are one or several. > > >> >> * How am I supposed to write f_xx'' to get the output as in the LaTeX >> example (i.e. so that the primes are over the xx)? >> >> have to switch things around: f''_xx or f''_{xx} depending on the actual >> result you want. >> > > I know about the grouping. Please have a look at my example files in my > earlier post in this thread. > > >> >> >> * Could the default placement of limits in integrals be changed >> (integral=nolimits)? This is how it is done in almost all math books). >> >> Not sure what you want here! example? can be LateX >> > > As above, I gave examples... > > Best regards, Mikael > > >> >> * What about the size and finetuning of placement of indices in integrals >> and sums (and probably products, unions, ...)? >> * I remember I suggested that \| should be double bars in a previous >> thread on this list. Is there any drawback in giving double bars for \|? Of >> course I can relearn and use \lVert and \rVert, but I have a feeling that >> if we want people moving from LaTeX to ConTeXt, then this is the kind of >> things that should just work as expected... >> >> Best regards, Mikael >> >> >> regards >> Keith >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >> archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ >

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